Does MATLAB work with Qualcomm arm processors? For example, Microsoft surface pro 11 with X Elite processor, and Windows 11 on Arm.

Qualcomm has released its latest X Elite processor and I really like its long battery life and low carbon footprint. I would like to ask the community if matlab runs well on windows on arm platform through an emulator? Will it affect normal ploting and coding? OS version:the latest Windows 11 on Arm.

Thank you!

[pren]

It can run but performance is not good. 2D or 3D gradphics uses software openGL.

The "bench" relative speed is 10-15. M2 MBP is about 42.

[yibo]

Thank you!

[Bahadir]

Thanks you Yibo,

How slow Snapdragon X Elite from original x64/x86 PC?

Can you guess approximately.

I attached simulink Deneme.slx file which is matlab 2019a.

When I press Run button on simulink, I started the stopwatch. When simulink finished, I stopped the stopwatch.

After pressing the run button, simulink finished with 2 minutes 52 seconds real time on my old laptop (i5-460M).

Yibo, Could you measure deneme.slx how long it took with stopwatch on your ASUS VIVOBOOK S laptop, (Snapdragon X Elite)

Thanks

[yibo]

I'm sorry I just saw your message and couldn't reply in time.

I've tried your attached file on my laptop, it can compile and run, through the whole simulation. less then 2min, I think.

BUT，there is 18 warnings, I don't know these are normal or not. I'll paste these warnings below（translation version）.

My matlab version is 2024b. Your File is created based on Matlab2019.

Warning: The image file in the 'image' drawing command in module 'Deneme/LC Filter' cannot be found in the MATLAB path, or the path to the file is invalid.

Warning: The image file in the 'image' drawing command in module 'Deneme/LC Filter' cannot be found in the MATLAB path, or the path to the file is invalid.

Warning: MATLAB has disabled some advanced graphics rendering features by using OpenGL software instead. For more information, click here.

Warning: The image file in the 'image' drawing command in module 'Deneme/LC Filter' cannot be found in the MATLAB path, or the path to the file is invalid.

[Bahadir]

Thanks you Yibo,

When I run deneme.slk on huwai matebook intel ultra 7 155h 16GB Ram, it take first run 1 minutes 12 seconds and second runs it take only 26 second.

In addition deneme.slk tested on a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x with Snapdragon X1E-78-100 and the first run took 5 minutes, while the next runs took about 2 minutes 35 seconds.

In summary

Deneme.slx run with

HP Pavilion Intel i5-460M=2 minutes 52 second,

ASUS VIVOBOOK S Snapdragon X Elite= 2 minutes

Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x Snapdragon X1E-78-100 5 minutes

Huwai matebook Intel Ultra 7 155h = 1 minutes 12 second

Answer 1

[halleyhit]

I would like to suggest MATLAB Online, and you only need browser and internet connection.

[yibo]

Thank you!

[Selvanathan]

but matlab online seeion will cut out if internet is disturbed and i have to run my code again from the start on my command promt. How do i resume my process in matlab online when my internet reconnected. because the session time out is unacceptable.

Answer 2

[Bahadir]

when we look to matlab system reqrements, I understand that matlab&simulink will not work on surface pro 11 (Snapdragon X Elite/Plus arm processor).

Because matlab system requrements donot include arm processor. Matlab&simulink is only installed on intel or amd x86-64 processor and any m-series chip.

But matlab can be installed on surface pro 9 which has intel i7-1265u processor.

it is very important to study matlab on a portable computer because sometimes we do not have internet connection.

Why doesn't matlab compiled for ARM processors? I want to run MATLAB on Surface Pro 11.

[yibo]

Thank u for this answer. Well, since microsoft built an emulator inside X Elite series windows 11 PC, MATLAB can run on this arm based windows PC in an emulator-way. I have tried, and basic matlab fuction like ploting figures and m-codes are all work fine ~ However，it's not as fast as the original x86 PC, still work though. So you can buy Surface Pro (with Snapdragon X Elite/Plus arm processor)

[yibo]

My PC is an ASUS VIVOBOOK S laptop, also an Snapdragon X Elite version.

[Walter Roberson]

Why doesn't matlab compiled for ARM processors?

Rebuilding MATLAB and associated products to work on Windows ARM, and thoroughly testing the result, is a lot of work. The Windows 10 ARM version only supported 32 bit executables, with 64 bit executables being beta version. Windows 11 ARM uses an ABI named ARM64EC that is incompatible with Windows 10 ARM. Drivers for hardware, games and apps will only work if they're designed for a Windows 11 Arm-based PC. Commercial support for Windows 11 ARM 64 bit has been available since only September 2024 (see https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/whats-next-for-windows-11-microsoft-prepares-early-24h2-release-for-arm-pcs-and-major-ai-update-this-fall )

Mathworks will probably support Windows ARM at some point, but it will take time.

[Walter Roberson]

@Bahadir

You already posted that, https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/2133341-does-matlab-work-with-qualcomm-arm-processors-for-example-microsoft-surface-pro-11-with-x-elite-pr#comment_3299508

[Vivek]

@Bahadir@Walter Roberson @MathWorks Support Team

Understood, but now that the "Copilot+PC"(Windows ARM) laptops are rapidly increasing in market share (Microsoft Surface Laptop, Dell XPS 13, HP OmniBook X 14, and more), are there any plans to provide binaries for Matlab on Windows arm64?

Since there are already Windows builds of Matlab, it shouldn't be too hard to compile for Windows arm64, as far as I know. Please try to add support and builds soon so that Matlab can be much more usable on Windows on ARM.

Thanks.

[Walter Roberson]

All I can say is that it is not planned for R2025a. I have no knowledge (for or against) it being planned for later releases.

I can say that I think Copilot+PC is a stupid idea that ought to fail (but probably won't.)

[Friedel Hartmann]

Agree

Answer 3

[Pranava Guru Sankar]

Matlab requires x86 (CISC based) not primarily ARM which I understand

While M1, M2 apple Processor have developed Rosetta 2 (kind of emulation ) to convert either Ahead of time (AOT) - like while installing softwares, or if we require it at realtime via Just In Time (JIT) - Rosetta 2 does it seamlessly improving processing time

Snapdragon don't have specific developed solution like Rosetta 2, while it uses general Emulator like QEMU (Quick Emulator) and window based emulation which is bit slower comparitively

Inference:

Snapdragon needs to do emulation to process x86 tasks which makes it slower comparitively

Note: Snapdragon uses ARM (simple reduced instruction set) - making it energy efficient - more battery performance.

[Walter Roberson]

As of MATLAB R2023b, MATLAB runs natively on Apple Silicon (ARM) chips, without needing Rosetta 2.

Since R2015b, MATLAB otherwise requires the x64 instruction set; x64 was available from roughly R2010b. MATLAB used to require x86 instruction set. (Unless you went back far enough, in which case it was supported on SPARC and on SGI MIPS and even on Vax.)